html_url,issue_url,id,node_id,user,created_at,updated_at,author_association,body,reactions,performed_via_github_app,issue https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-1267571723,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,1267571723,IC_kwDOAMm_X85LjZwL,2656596,2022-10-04T20:58:37Z,2022-10-04T21:00:08Z,NONE,Running `xarray.backends.file_manager.FILE_CACHE.clear()` fixed the issue for me. I couldn't find any other way to stop xarray from pulling up some old data from a newly saved file. I'm using the h5netcdf engine with xarray version 2022.6.0 by the way.,"{""total_count"": 1, ""+1"": 1, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-1258874354,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,1258874354,IC_kwDOAMm_X85LCOXy,2086210,2022-09-27T02:14:28Z,2022-09-27T02:14:28Z,NONE,"+1 Complicated, still vexing this user a year+ later, but it easier for me to just restart the kernel again and again than read this and #4879, which is closed but didn't seem to have succeeded if I read correctly? ","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-774774033,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,774774033,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDc3NDc3NDAzMw==,1217238,2021-02-07T21:48:38Z,2021-02-07T21:48:38Z,MEMBER,I have a tentative fix for this in https://github.com/pydata/xarray/pull/4879. It would be great if someone could give this a try to verify that it resolve the issue.,"{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-764726612,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,764726612,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDc2NDcyNjYxMg==,5821660,2021-01-21T15:34:42Z,2021-01-21T15:46:36Z,MEMBER,"I've stumbled over this weird behaviour many times and was wondering why this happens. So AFAICT @shoyer hit the nail on the head but the root cause is that the Dataset is added to the notebook namespace somehow, if one just evaluates it in the cell. This doesn't happen if you invoke the `__repr__` via ```python display(xr.open_dataset(""saved_on_disk.nc"")) ``` I've forced myself to use either `print` or `display` for xarray data. As this also happens if the Dataset is attached to a variable you would need to specifically delete (or .close()) the variable in question before opening again. ```python try: del ds except NameError: pass ds = xr.open_dataset(""saved_on_disk.nc"") ``` ","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-676326130,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,676326130,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDY3NjMyNjEzMA==,3332539,2020-08-19T13:07:05Z,2020-08-19T13:07:05Z,NONE,Would it be an option to consider the time stamp of the file's last change as a caching criterion?,"{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-663794065,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,663794065,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDY2Mzc5NDA2NQ==,1217238,2020-07-25T02:05:18Z,2020-07-25T02:05:18Z,MEMBER,"Probably the easiest work around is to call `.close()` on the original dataset. Failing that, the file is cached in `xarray.backends.file_manager.FILE_CACHE`, which you could muck around with. I believe it only gets activated by `repr()` because array values from netCDF file are loaded lazily. Not 100% without more testing, though.","{""total_count"": 1, ""+1"": 1, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-663791784,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,663791784,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDY2Mzc5MTc4NA==,69774,2020-07-25T01:41:20Z,2020-07-25T01:41:20Z,NONE,"now i'm wondering why the caching logic is only activated by the `repr`? As you can see, when printed, it always updated to the status on disk?","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-663791386,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,663791386,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDY2Mzc5MTM4Ng==,69774,2020-07-25T01:37:20Z,2020-07-25T01:37:20Z,NONE,is there a workaround for forcing the opening without restarting the notebook?,"{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/4240#issuecomment-663790991,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/4240,663790991,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDY2Mzc5MDk5MQ==,1217238,2020-07-25T01:33:36Z,2020-07-25T01:33:36Z,MEMBER,"Thanks for the clear example! This happens dues to xarray's caching logic for files: https://github.com/pydata/xarray/blob/b1c7e315e8a18e86c5751a0aa9024d41a42ca5e8/xarray/backends/file_manager.py#L50-L76 This means that when you open the same filename, xarray doesn't actually reopen the file from disk -- instead it points to the same file object already cached in memory. I can see why this could be confusing. We do need this caching logic for files opened from the same `backends.*DataStore` class, but this could include some sort of unique identifier (i.e., from `uuid`) to ensure each separate call to `xr.open_dataset` results in a separately cached/opened file object: https://github.com/pydata/xarray/blob/b1c7e315e8a18e86c5751a0aa9024d41a42ca5e8/xarray/backends/netCDF4_.py#L355-L357","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,662505658