html_url,issue_url,id,node_id,user,created_at,updated_at,author_association,body,reactions,performed_via_github_app,issue https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/767#issuecomment-191826844,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/767,191826844,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDE5MTgyNjg0NA==,1217238,2016-03-03T16:00:50Z,2016-03-03T16:00:50Z,MEMBER,"If you try that doing that indexing with a pandas.Series, you actually get an error message: ``` In [71]: s.loc['bar', slice(4000, 4100.3)] # ... /Users/shoyer/conda/envs/xarray-dev/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pandas/core/indexing.py in _getitem_axis(self, key, axis) 1363 # nested tuple slicing 1364 if is_nested_tuple(key, labels): -> 1365 locs = labels.get_locs(key) 1366 indexer = [ slice(None) ] * self.ndim 1367 indexer[axis] = locs /Users/shoyer/conda/envs/xarray-dev/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pandas/core/index.py in get_locs(self, tup) 5692 if not self.is_lexsorted_for_tuple(tup): 5693 raise KeyError('MultiIndex Slicing requires the index to be fully lexsorted' -> 5694 ' tuple len ({0}), lexsort depth ({1})'.format(len(tup), self.lexsort_depth)) 5695 5696 # indexer KeyError: 'MultiIndex Slicing requires the index to be fully lexsorted tuple len (2), lexsort depth (0,) ``` I guess it's also worth investigating `get_locs` as an alternative or companion to `get_loc_level`. ","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,134359597 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/767#issuecomment-191315935,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/767,191315935,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDE5MTMxNTkzNQ==,1217238,2016-03-02T16:32:43Z,2016-03-02T16:32:43Z,MEMBER,"The good news about writing our own custom way to select levels is that because we can avoid the stack/unstack, we can simply omit unused levels without worrying about doing `dropna` with `unstack`. So as long as we are implementing this in own other method (e.g., `sel` or `xs`), we can default to `drop_level=True`. I would be OK with `xs`, but `da.xs('bar', dim='band_wavenumber', level='band')` feels much more verbose to me than `da.sel(band_wavenumber={'band': 'bar'})`. The later solution involves inventing no new API, and because dictionaries are not hashable there's no potential conflict with existing functionality. Last year at the SciPy conference sprints, @jonathanrocher was working on adding similar dictionary support into `.loc` in pandas (i.e., `da.loc[{'band': 'band'}]`). I don't think he ever finished up that PR, but he might have a branch worth looking at as a starting point. > I think that this solution is better than, e.g., directly providing index level names as arguments of the sel method. This may be confusing and there may be conflict when different dimensions have the same index level names. This is a fair point, but such scenarios are unlikely to appear in practice. We might be able to, for example, update our handling of MultiIndexes to guarantee that level names cannot conflict with other variables. This might be done by inserting dummy-variables of some sort into the `_coords` dict whenever a MultiIndex is added. It would take some work to ensure this works smoothly, though. > Besides this, It would be nice if the drop_level=True behavior could be applied by default to any selection (i.e., also when using loc, sel, etc.), like with Pandas. I don't know how Pandas does this (I'll look into that), but at first glance this would here imply checking for each dimension if it has a multi-index and then checking the labels for each index level. Yes, agreed. Unfortunately the pandas code that handles this is a complete mess of spaghetti code (see pandas/core/indexers.py). So are welcome to try decoding it, but in my opinion you might be better off starting from scratch. In xarray, the function [convert_label_indexer](https://github.com/pydata/xarray/blob/660d29d33cfc647324543e338d0b03ce7be1383b/xarray/core/indexing.py#L138) would need an updated interface that allows it to possibly return a new `pandas.Index` object to replace the existing index. ","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,134359597 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/767#issuecomment-185796850,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/767,185796850,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDE4NTc5Njg1MA==,1217238,2016-02-18T16:16:00Z,2016-02-18T16:16:00Z,MEMBER,"This is a really good point that honestly I had not thought carefully about before. I agree that it would be very nice to have this behavior, though. This will require a bit of internal refactoring to pass on the level information to the MultiIndex during indexing. To remove unused levels after unstacking, you need to add an explicit `dropna`, e.g., `da.unstack('band_wavenumber').dropna('band_wavenumber')`. This is definitely a break from pandas, but for a good reason (IMO). See [here](https://github.com/pydata/xarray/pull/702#issuecomment-171407924) for discussion on this point. I raised another issue for the bug related to copying MultiIndex that you had in the earlier version of this PR (#769). More broadly, if you care about MultiIndex support, it would be great to get some help pushing it. I'm happy to answer questions, but I'm at a new job and don't have a lot of time to work on new development. ","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,134359597