html_url,issue_url,id,node_id,user,created_at,updated_at,author_association,body,reactions,performed_via_github_app,issue https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-620961663,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,620961663,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDYyMDk2MTY2Mw==,1197350,2020-04-29T02:45:28Z,2020-04-29T02:45:28Z,MEMBER,"I'm reviving this classic issue to report another quasi-failure of dask chunking, this time in the opposite direction. Consider this dataset: ```python import xarray as xr ds = xr.Dataset({'foo': (['time'], dsa.ones(120, chunks=60))}, coords={'year': (['time'], np.repeat(np.arange(10), 12))}) ``` ``` Dimensions: (time: 120) Coordinates: year (time) int64 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 ... 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 Dimensions without coordinates: time Data variables: foo (time) float64 dask.array ``` There are just two big chunks. Now let's try to take an ""annual mean"" using resample ```python ds.foo.groupby('year').mean(dim='time') ``` ``` dask.array Coordinates: * year (year) int64 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ``` Now we have a chunksize of 1 and 10 chunks. That's bad: we should still just have two chunks, since we are aggregating only within chunks. Taken to the limit of very high temporal resolution, this example will blow up in terms of number of tasks. I wish dask could figure out that it doesn't have to create all those tasks. The graph looks like this ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1197350/80556347-4a72d100-89a1-11ea-9357-d39978d9500f.png) In contrast, `coarsen` is smart enough, probably because it relies on dask's underlying coarsen function ``` ds.foo.coarsen(time=12).mean() ``` ``` dask.array Coordinates: year (time) float64 0.0 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 6.0 7.0 8.0 9.0 Dimensions without coordinates: time ```","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-482275708,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,482275708,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDQ4MjI3NTcwOA==,1197350,2019-04-11T19:37:05Z,2019-04-11T19:37:05Z,MEMBER,"We had a long iteration on this in Pangeo, and big progress was made in dask. Definitely closed for now.","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-398597356,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,398597356,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5ODU5NzM1Ng==,1197350,2018-06-20T01:42:55Z,2018-06-20T01:42:55Z,MEMBER,I'm glad to see that this has generated so much serious discussion and thought! I will try to catch up on it in the morning when I have some hope of understanding.,"{""total_count"": 1, ""+1"": 1, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-398240724,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,398240724,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5ODI0MDcyNA==,1197350,2018-06-19T00:57:44Z,2018-06-19T00:57:44Z,MEMBER,"With groupby in xarray, we have two main cases: 1. **groupby with reduction** -- (e.g. `ds.groupby('baz').mean(dim='x')`). There is currently no problem here. The new dimension becomes `baz` and the array is chunked as `{'baz': 1}`. 1. **groupby with no reduction** -- (e.g. `ds.groubpy('baz').apply(lambda x: x - x.mean())`). In this case, the point of the out-of-order indexing is actually to put the array back together in its original order. In my last example above, according to the dot graph, it looks like there are four chunks right up until the end. They just have to be re-ordered. I imagine this should be cheap and simple, but I am probably overlooking something. Case 2 seems similar to @shoyer's example: `x[np.arange(4)[::-1]`. Here we would just want to reorder the existing chunks. If the chunk size before reindexing is not 1, then yes, one needs to do something more sophisticated. But I would argue that, *if the array is being re-indexed along a dimension in which the chunk size is 1*, a sensible default behavior would be to avoid aggregating into a big chunk and instead just pass the original chunks though in a new order. ","{""total_count"": 1, ""+1"": 1, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-398158656,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,398158656,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5ODE1ODY1Ng==,1197350,2018-06-18T18:55:08Z,2018-06-18T18:55:08Z,MEMBER,"Thanks for the explanation @shoyer! Yes, that appears to be the root of the issue. After literally years of struggling with this, I am happy to finally get to this level of clarity. > So basically the issue comes down to indexing with dask.array, which creates a single chunk when integers indices are not all in order Do we think dask is happy with that behavior? If not, then an upstream fix would be best. Pinging @mrocklin. Otherwise we can try to work around in xarray.","{""total_count"": 1, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 1, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-398156747,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,398156747,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5ODE1Njc0Nw==,1197350,2018-06-18T18:48:34Z,2018-06-18T18:48:34Z,MEMBER,"And just because it's fun, I will show what the anomaly calculation looks like `ds.foo.groupby('bar').apply(lambda x: x - x.mean()).data.visualize()`: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1197350/41555687-6faa4eca-7306-11e8-9c29-fe80eaad2f47.png) `ds.foo.groupby('baz').apply(lambda x: x - x.mean()).data.visualize()`: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1197350/41555704-7eda6c36-7306-11e8-8bb6-06b7931ddc0b.png) It looks like everything is really ok up until the very end, where all the tasks aggregate into a single `getitem` call.","{""total_count"": 2, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 2, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-398152064,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,398152064,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5ODE1MjA2NA==,1197350,2018-06-18T18:32:42Z,2018-06-18T18:32:42Z,MEMBER,"I agree that single value chunks illustrates the problem more clearly. I think this example is most clean if you do it like this ```python import xarray as xr import dask.array as dsa ds = xr.Dataset({'foo': (['x'], dsa.ones(4, chunks=1))}, coords={'x': (['x'], [0, 1, 2, 3]), 'bar': (['x'], ['a', 'a', 'b', 'b']), 'baz': (['x'], ['a', 'b', 'a', 'b'])}) ``` `ds.foo.groupby('bar').apply(lambda x: x).data.visualize()`: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1197350/41554911-2117ebde-7304-11e8-990d-a175479cb165.png) `ds.foo.groupby('baz').apply(lambda x: x).data.visualize()` ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1197350/41554932-319cd370-7304-11e8-9b41-6fbf8822bb2c.png) ","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849 https://github.com/pydata/xarray/issues/2237#issuecomment-398150381,https://api.github.com/repos/pydata/xarray/issues/2237,398150381,MDEyOklzc3VlQ29tbWVudDM5ODE1MDM4MQ==,1197350,2018-06-18T18:27:08Z,2018-06-18T18:27:08Z,MEMBER,"> while your example shows that chunks are lost after the groupby, does that prove for sure that the groupby operation does not use the original chunks? One way to answer that is the following: Here is the dask graph for `groupby('bar')`: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1197350/41554656-8243cec4-7303-11e8-8ffd-2d1adcd46b2c.png) Here is the dask graph for `groupby('baz')`: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1197350/41554673-9088ad60-7303-11e8-886a-d5ca99f97434.png) ","{""total_count"": 0, ""+1"": 0, ""-1"": 0, ""laugh"": 0, ""hooray"": 0, ""confused"": 0, ""heart"": 0, ""rocket"": 0, ""eyes"": 0}",,333312849